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	<title>Comments on: ZOMG! Spare me the POSH acronyms, please!</title>
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		<title>By: Chris Neale</title>
		<link>http://arapehlivanian.com/2007/05/04/zomg-spare-me-the-posh-acronyms-please/#comment-18313</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Neale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 12:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PSTN - Public Subscriber Telephone Network ?

VoIP, surely ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PSTN - Public Subscriber Telephone Network ?</p>
<p>VoIP, surely ?</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://arapehlivanian.com/2007/05/04/zomg-spare-me-the-posh-acronyms-please/#comment-17810</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 22:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I presume that the inspiration for POSH is POTS (plain old telephone system).  POTS is a disambiguation term (meaning PSTN as opposed to GSM, VOIP, etc).

POSH, I suppose, could be used to distinguish sites that use semantic as opposed to rubbish old presentational HTML (hereon abbreviated to ROPH, which can "easily be verbed").  You could use it to shame your buddies into 'POSHifying' their sites: "Man your site is still coded in ROPH? That's so lame! POSH is where it's at bro! You need to deROPHulate and get POSHified!"

In my experience, people either 'get' semantic HTML pretty quickly, or they don't at all (or they don't care).  If you get it, and you believe in it, then you'll do your best to code 'properly'.  If you don't, and/or you don't care, then a cute acronym and a pseudo-aspirational grassroots campaign are not going to change your mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I presume that the inspiration for POSH is POTS (plain old telephone system).  POTS is a disambiguation term (meaning PSTN as opposed to GSM, VOIP, etc).</p>
<p>POSH, I suppose, could be used to distinguish sites that use semantic as opposed to rubbish old presentational HTML (hereon abbreviated to ROPH, which can &#8220;easily be verbed&#8221;).  You could use it to shame your buddies into &#8216;POSHifying&#8217; their sites: &#8220;Man your site is still coded in ROPH? That&#8217;s so lame! POSH is where it&#8217;s at bro! You need to deROPHulate and get POSHified!&#8221;</p>
<p>In my experience, people either &#8216;get&#8217; semantic HTML pretty quickly, or they don&#8217;t at all (or they don&#8217;t care).  If you get it, and you believe in it, then you&#8217;ll do your best to code &#8216;properly&#8217;.  If you don&#8217;t, and/or you don&#8217;t care, then a cute acronym and a pseudo-aspirational grassroots campaign are not going to change your mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Neale</title>
		<link>http://arapehlivanian.com/2007/05/04/zomg-spare-me-the-posh-acronyms-please/#comment-17655</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Neale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 10:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ASH - appropriate semantic html

Spur of the moment alternative acronym with no more merit; and probably not suitable either - no one wants to crash, burn and end up as ash, do they ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ASH - appropriate semantic html</p>
<p>Spur of the moment alternative acronym with no more merit; and probably not suitable either - no one wants to crash, burn and end up as ash, do they ?</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://arapehlivanian.com/2007/05/04/zomg-spare-me-the-posh-acronyms-please/#comment-17534</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, it's utterly idiotic.  As you say, it just changes the conversation from:

"We should use semantic HTML."
"What's that and why should we use it?"

to:

"We should use POSH."
"What?  Posh?  Eh?"
"Yeah, you know - POSH.  Plain Old Semantic HTML."
"Oh.  What's that and why should we use it?"

Wow, great advance guys, inventing yet another acronym (which sounds identical to an actual word you might conceivably use to describe a piece of design) is really worth all the confusion right?

*rolls eyes*

I'm sorta with you on the rock star thing as well.  Bit silly how a dozen odd folks have got that little cabal going on, you meet equally capable web people all over the place, all the time, pulling off sites just as (or more) functional and attractive without a speaking tour or needlessly invented new buzzword in sight.  

But I suppose folks with a quiet permanent salaried gig don't need all the self promotional blogging that you do when you're freelance and selling books and stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, it&#8217;s utterly idiotic.  As you say, it just changes the conversation from:</p>
<p>&#8220;We should use semantic HTML.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;What&#8217;s that and why should we use it?&#8221;</p>
<p>to:</p>
<p>&#8220;We should use POSH.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;What?  Posh?  Eh?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Yeah, you know - POSH.  Plain Old Semantic HTML.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Oh.  What&#8217;s that and why should we use it?&#8221;</p>
<p>Wow, great advance guys, inventing yet another acronym (which sounds identical to an actual word you might conceivably use to describe a piece of design) is really worth all the confusion right?</p>
<p>*rolls eyes*</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorta with you on the rock star thing as well.  Bit silly how a dozen odd folks have got that little cabal going on, you meet equally capable web people all over the place, all the time, pulling off sites just as (or more) functional and attractive without a speaking tour or needlessly invented new buzzword in sight.  </p>
<p>But I suppose folks with a quiet permanent salaried gig don&#8217;t need all the self promotional blogging that you do when you&#8217;re freelance and selling books and stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Ulrich</title>
		<link>http://arapehlivanian.com/2007/05/04/zomg-spare-me-the-posh-acronyms-please/#comment-17426</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Ulrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 22:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here, Here! You just made my Saturday.

In an effort to move forward we have lost site of our craft.

"I want to say that creating POSH and supporting it is a cop out and a slap to the face of all those who have been working their butts off to get the concept of semantic HTML known while being consistent with–or at least similar to–the mass media’s dumbing down of the masses rather than making an effort to educate them"...

HTML is not plain or old. Just overlooked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here, Here! You just made my Saturday.</p>
<p>In an effort to move forward we have lost site of our craft.</p>
<p>&#8220;I want to say that creating POSH and supporting it is a cop out and a slap to the face of all those who have been working their butts off to get the concept of semantic HTML known while being consistent with–or at least similar to–the mass media’s dumbing down of the masses rather than making an effort to educate them&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>HTML is not plain or old. Just overlooked.</p>
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		<title>By: patrick h. lauke</title>
		<link>http://arapehlivanian.com/2007/05/04/zomg-spare-me-the-posh-acronyms-please/#comment-17411</link>
		<dc:creator>patrick h. lauke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 18:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and once a boss/client asks what POSH stands for, i'm sure the words "plain" and "old" won't inspire them with cutting edge/creative confidence either...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and once a boss/client asks what POSH stands for, i&#8217;m sure the words &#8220;plain&#8221; and &#8220;old&#8221; won&#8217;t inspire them with cutting edge/creative confidence either&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Zeldman Presents : My Ding-a-Links</title>
		<link>http://arapehlivanian.com/2007/05/04/zomg-spare-me-the-posh-acronyms-please/#comment-17231</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Zeldman Presents : My Ding-a-Links</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ZOMG! Spare me the POSH acronyms, please! [...]</description>
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		<title>By: aljuk</title>
		<link>http://arapehlivanian.com/2007/05/04/zomg-spare-me-the-posh-acronyms-please/#comment-15524</link>
		<dc:creator>aljuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HTML is an acronym - succinct and to the point. POSH is an acronym to express an acronym, misleading, clumsy and retarded. Which is the more semantic in nature do you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HTML is an acronym - succinct and to the point. POSH is an acronym to express an acronym, misleading, clumsy and retarded. Which is the more semantic in nature do you think?</p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
		<link>http://arapehlivanian.com/2007/05/04/zomg-spare-me-the-posh-acronyms-please/#comment-15520</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 12:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Designer: I think this site needs to be POSH.

Boss: It looks pretty nice already.

Designer: No, I mean POSH, as in "plain-old semantic HTML."

Boss: Really? That sounds boring. I don't want our site to be plain or old.

Designer: But it's a best-practices thing. Really--

Boss: Don't bother. I don't want our site to be behind the times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Designer: I think this site needs to be POSH.</p>
<p>Boss: It looks pretty nice already.</p>
<p>Designer: No, I mean POSH, as in &#8220;plain-old semantic HTML.&#8221;</p>
<p>Boss: Really? That sounds boring. I don&#8217;t want our site to be plain or old.</p>
<p>Designer: But it&#8217;s a best-practices thing. Really&#8211;</p>
<p>Boss: Don&#8217;t bother. I don&#8217;t want our site to be behind the times.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://arapehlivanian.com/2007/05/04/zomg-spare-me-the-posh-acronyms-please/#comment-12928</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 03:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't think "Posh" is a bad acronym at all - it does make sense. The fact that it is related to a British pop band can't be that bad. Have you seen the Spice Girls? They’re definitely easy on the eyes.

Again, it makes sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think &#8220;Posh&#8221; is a bad acronym at all - it does make sense. The fact that it is related to a British pop band can&#8217;t be that bad. Have you seen the Spice Girls? They’re definitely easy on the eyes.</p>
<p>Again, it makes sense.</p>
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