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	<title>Comments on: It&#8217;s Our Fault IE6 Still Lingers</title>
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		<title>By: Arsen</title>
		<link>http://arapehlivanian.com/its-our-fault-ie6-still-lingers/comment-page-1/#comment-63606</link>
		<dc:creator>Arsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 06:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At our company, security is a top priority, and as such our service does not support IE6. However, we understand that some people at work have no other option other than IE6. As a response, we created a document for them to send to their IT guys which outlines reasons why they should offer an alternative to IE6.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/17681961/Why-Your-Company-Should-Offer-an-Alternative-to-IE6

-Arsen
http://mitto.com
Your Safe and Secure Online Password Manager</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At our company, security is a top priority, and as such our service does not support IE6. However, we understand that some people at work have no other option other than IE6. As a response, we created a document for them to send to their IT guys which outlines reasons why they should offer an alternative to IE6.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/17681961/Why-Your-Company-Should-Offer-an-Alternative-to-IE6" rel="nofollow">http://www.scribd.com/doc/17681961/Why-Your-Company-Should-Offer-an-Alternative-to-IE6</a></p>
<p>-Arsen<br />
<a href="http://mitto.com" rel="nofollow">http://mitto.com</a><br />
Your Safe and Secure Online Password Manager</p>
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		<title>By: Lily</title>
		<link>http://arapehlivanian.com/its-our-fault-ie6-still-lingers/comment-page-1/#comment-55712</link>
		<dc:creator>Lily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 13:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really liked your blog! i read 4 others that are on similar subjets, but they domt update very often, thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really liked your blog! i read 4 others that are on similar subjets, but they domt update very often, thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Grigsby</title>
		<link>http://arapehlivanian.com/its-our-fault-ie6-still-lingers/comment-page-1/#comment-54188</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Grigsby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 20:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Intel IT hasn&#039;t updated to IE7. If you do any business with Intel, you have no choice but to support IE6.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Intel IT hasn&#8217;t updated to IE7. If you do any business with Intel, you have no choice but to support IE6.</p>
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		<title>By: Mathieu Gagnon</title>
		<link>http://arapehlivanian.com/its-our-fault-ie6-still-lingers/comment-page-1/#comment-51693</link>
		<dc:creator>Mathieu Gagnon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 03:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point Paul !
I personally accept light degradations (specially when it allows to remove obscure hacks)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point Paul !<br />
I personally accept light degradations (specially when it allows to remove obscure hacks)</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Carvill</title>
		<link>http://arapehlivanian.com/its-our-fault-ie6-still-lingers/comment-page-1/#comment-50583</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Carvill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 00:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We shouldn&#039;t be going out of our way to make sites work in IE6, we should be going out of our way to make sure sites work in as many browsers, devices and operating systems as possible.  We need to take a serious look at the complexity of the pages we&#039;re making.  We need to go back to the basics of the web and remind ourselves about device independence and clarity and conciseness of content.

Seriously, if the pages you make are breaking in IE6, just think about how bad they look and behave in any random mobile browser or any  ther portable device.  If your pages really need so much extra development work just to make them work in a hugely popular and widely used browser, then you&#039;re doing something wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We shouldn&#8217;t be going out of our way to make sites work in IE6, we should be going out of our way to make sure sites work in as many browsers, devices and operating systems as possible.  We need to take a serious look at the complexity of the pages we&#8217;re making.  We need to go back to the basics of the web and remind ourselves about device independence and clarity and conciseness of content.</p>
<p>Seriously, if the pages you make are breaking in IE6, just think about how bad they look and behave in any random mobile browser or any  ther portable device.  If your pages really need so much extra development work just to make them work in a hugely popular and widely used browser, then you&#8217;re doing something wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Ara Pehlivanian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ara Pehlivanian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 16:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Der Caspers: Good point, post updated!</description>
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		<title>By: Der Caspers</title>
		<link>http://arapehlivanian.com/its-our-fault-ie6-still-lingers/comment-page-1/#comment-50457</link>
		<dc:creator>Der Caspers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 12:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pirated-XP-excuse doesn&#039;t cut it for me. At least for the sites I am working on, IE6 is in the double digits Mon thru Fri, 9 to 5 and it drops to 5-7% over the weekend, only to rise again on Monday morning when everybody&#039;s back to work. So it&#039;s clearly not the home users who refuse to upgrade, but the IT folks in corporations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pirated-XP-excuse doesn&#8217;t cut it for me. At least for the sites I am working on, IE6 is in the double digits Mon thru Fri, 9 to 5 and it drops to 5-7% over the weekend, only to rise again on Monday morning when everybody&#8217;s back to work. So it&#8217;s clearly not the home users who refuse to upgrade, but the IT folks in corporations.</p>
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		<title>By: Wait till I come! &#187; Blog Archive &#187; To hell with IE6? More like to hell with &#8220;good enough&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://arapehlivanian.com/its-our-fault-ie6-still-lingers/comment-page-1/#comment-50454</link>
		<dc:creator>Wait till I come! &#187; Blog Archive &#187; To hell with IE6? More like to hell with &#8220;good enough&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 12:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on IE6 - Robert Nyman got the ball rollling, Roger Johannson enforced the argument and now Ara Pehlivanian chimes in. The general consensus is that people should stop making things work pixel-perfect for [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Toan Le</title>
		<link>http://arapehlivanian.com/its-our-fault-ie6-still-lingers/comment-page-1/#comment-50415</link>
		<dc:creator>Toan Le</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 03:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Ara, but I can&#039;t follow your logic. There are over 100+K Social Assistance beneficiaries in Qc, should we just cut their welfare checks? Then they ll move their lazy ass back to work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Ara, but I can&#8217;t follow your logic. There are over 100+K Social Assistance beneficiaries in Qc, should we just cut their welfare checks? Then they ll move their lazy ass back to work?</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Miraglia</title>
		<link>http://arapehlivanian.com/its-our-fault-ie6-still-lingers/comment-page-1/#comment-50382</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Miraglia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christian -- I agree with you on most of these points, but I also agree with Ara and the argument that we shouldn&#039;t fall on our swords for experiential parity in IE6.  At best, it should be treated as a browser that requires functional completeness but not  design integrity for most sites. -Eric</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christian &#8212; I agree with you on most of these points, but I also agree with Ara and the argument that we shouldn&#8217;t fall on our swords for experiential parity in IE6.  At best, it should be treated as a browser that requires functional completeness but not  design integrity for most sites. -Eric</p>
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